i mean, the fbi has spent a lot of time. the last entry into the area was a tip on the farm in milford that was owned by a former organized crime steamster official. that turned up nothing -- teamster official. that turned up nothing. this has cost several hundreds of thousands of dollars. it led to where i always thought it would lead, that is nobefono. >> do you feel like police jurisdictions will always be on a wild goose chase, if you call it that, because it is a legendary, you know, kind of urban myth. the mystery that continues to fascinatcinate so many. >> you're correct. it is a mystery. it continues to fascinate a lot of people. and we'll go on and on. right away as soon as this happened, the thing that struck me was the tipster refused to take a polygraph examination. you know, right away that's got to tell you something. and the timeline was not correct either. law enforcement, local law enforcement could do what they wanted to do and drilled a hole. they came up empty. and as my grandson had told me many times w